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   Posted 11/18/2011 1:30 AM (GMT +8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Why archer was IMBA?

-157 pow skill has big AoE
-slow+cripple+hunter snare
-SF+DOD combo
-Learnable passives without adding stats
-pow bow for dex skills
-shockwave
and etc. as discussed in older thread.

Does gunner upset the imbalance of the archer, or instead of arguing whether the archer is still IMBA or not, we should be arguing about the gunner IMBAness?


Is archer still IMBA after the gunner era?


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   Posted 11/21/2011 1:16 AM (GMT +8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yes it is...they are both imba. Apparently the developers think 2 imba cancel eachother out and bring balance...sorry but no.

Extreme archer is even more imba. They can tank, kill, everything. And why do int bows get 27x energy when other classes of int type only get 19x max?
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   Posted 11/22/2011 12:03 PM (GMT +8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
i believe that extreme char are suppose to have high def because they are extreme of cos.. ^_^
- can't say extreme archer is imbalance
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   Posted 11/22/2011 7:59 PM (GMT +8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
gunner int ep7 have 27x energy value

seems like the intention of the developers is that the only int killers that supposed to exist is int archer and int gunner.


Not even ec, sm or fighter

You can even have an EC lvl 2xx casting 197 with a lvl 1 stick and expect it to rival a +7 ep7 wand in terms of damage


How about fighter?

You cant have an int+dex build coz for fighter, dex stat increases less energy than all the other class. The only redeeming feature of the fighter is the power kick. imba buff which is a buff, something a gunner easily debuffs


Int sm is worse! the best atk skill they can deal gives 7xx damage and thats 197 skill. all the other skill itches in duel, and they dont have atk buff

and too bad their defense sux too

How about int archer? the archer is the only class that focuses on weapon for damage. 27x energy for a ep7 weapon isnt exactly imba, but sm, fighter and ec fare worse. Even int archer deal mediocre damage only. about 7xx damage

So, the best int class?

Its either extreme archer or gunner

But both have incompatible traits! extreme archer with int skills only have buffs that increase hit rate. While gunner have summons that stays long, but deals so little damage with that summon

The good thing? Extreme archer, when at lvl 2xx, have dip-eye buff that increase 200 energy. Int gunner, the 197 skill with power attacking.

Think, the killer class has all their build powerful, while the less killer class has less powerful builds.


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   Posted 11/22/2011 8:01 PM (GMT +8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yeah but it's kind of lame that they make the most overpowered type dex type so they are even stronger...yeah I know extreme brawler is dex too, but not full dex...
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   Posted 11/22/2011 8:05 PM (GMT +8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
off-topic:
Oh hi there, long time no see anyone posts so fast after me.

on-topic:
as much as i want to discuss about the int builds, archer still has the hunter snare+cripple shot+slow combo


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   Posted 11/22/2011 8:08 PM (GMT +8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Gunner pow can knock down archer lv.230 without any problem..just lock pot, then combo skill.
btw, extreme is mean to be imba


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   Posted 11/22/2011 8:12 PM (GMT +8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
yeah, and the gunner pow 167 skill with PUM deals 4k damage...

clearly the gm has to focus on the set defense and the hp for the 17x above


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   Posted 11/23/2011 2:01 AM (GMT +8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Deity Lynx said...
btw, extreme is mean to be imba


Compared to normal classes yes, but I'm saying extreme archer is imba compared to extreme sm/fighter/ec.

Post Edited (AllenSam) : 11/23/2011 2:03:12 AM GMT +8

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   Posted 11/23/2011 4:40 AM (GMT +8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
extreme sm and extreme 5ter has big disadvantage in terms of hp, because they can never catch up with the normal class hp. So, you cant be making a tanker sm or 5ter extreme

I think the developer make the gunner and tested it fighting against normal class with imba set+hp item.

And the gunner cdm set is imba, with hp bonus similar to gm set


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   Posted 11/24/2011 4:42 PM (GMT +8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
No need change anything.. just make sm, ec and fighter imba~ then everything balance.. XD

SM become skills spammer like DotA Zeus.. fast cooldown + immediate skill..
Fighter~ add larger AOE and longer range...ehh how about distance of 80!!!
EC~ super nuke with extra 30% bonus damage with 25% extra attack speed...
Archer no change coz already imba
Gunner no change coz already imba

Then everyone can kill~ every class is imba~ everyone is equally imba~ Just Kidding~ Haha


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   Posted 11/24/2011 8:16 PM (GMT +8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
AllenSam said...
Compared to normal classes yes, but I'm saying extreme archer is imba compared to extreme sm/fighter/ec.


I have to agree with you. extreme archer is imba than the other. They're pure dex, and normally, pure dex have low damage than the other. My extreme archer is pure dex, but still have high damage. lv.148 but attack is around 7xx-8xx, if pu+kz can reach 1.1k+, high def because pure dex, around 68x dex


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   Posted 11/25/2011 1:52 AM (GMT +8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
They also nurfed one of the ec skills. The extreme pow skill Shadow Spear is supposed to be ice element and induce freeze but it doesn't. On RAN GS it's called Glacial Cage and can freeze the enemy. You can even tell by the animation and sound that it should be Ice. Days of Flame induces fire, why did they take away ice?

Post Edited (AllenSam) : 11/25/2011 1:55:26 AM GMT +8

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